Showing posts with label stats. Show all posts
Showing posts with label stats. Show all posts

Nov 20, 2009

Spinning sabermetrics

Often, I enjoy the art of the argument more than the actual content in the debate. I appreciate the creativity of trying to convince someone of something they don't want to believe.

After yesterday's posting on the Cy Young awards and assessing Cole Hamels, consider these pieces by a stathead and traditionalist. Decide which one is sincere and which one is satire:

First:

So I pictured that shredded repository of all that is Scriptural about baseball, the lengthened shadow of fine print that comprises its history and greatness ...

And I muttered, "Look at how they've massacred our record book."

The only group walking the Earth scarier than the Global-Warmingistas are the Pitch-Countniks.

Second:

Yesterday was a seminal day in baseball history. When it was announced that Chris Carpenter finished second in the National League Cy Young voting despite not being named on two ballots - yes, two whole ballots - the game of baseball was irreparably changed, and not for the better. It may be hard to recognize at first but, sometime soon, we'll be looking back on this Thursday in the same way that we now look back on Opening Day 1947 or the first time Derek Jeter's dreamy smile graced the covers of the New York tabloids. I mean, this is important stuff.

The former was a piece by Bill Conlin, the crusty guy at the Daily News who I can barely read. I actually read this one, however, dumbfounded that someone would still have such an attitude without no reservations. The latter is a good spoof from Wezen-Ball that were Conlin to read it, he'd probably think it were a serious and legitimate piece of journalism.

So who won this debate without even having to break out a sophisticated mathematical formula?

Today's news: Nothing much going on in SoxandPhils-ville, but I wonder whether Christine finished buying my Christmas gifts.

Nov 19, 2009

Slinging sabermetrically

With the Cy Young awards going to the league's best pitchers, Zack Greinke and Tim Lincecum, instead of ones with gaudier win-loss records, statheads are cautiously celebrating that it appears sports writers are finally starting to look beyond conventional wisdom and gut feelings to use all the information available to make informed judgments.

As Fangraphs blogger Dave Cameron notes, it's too soon to say that these votes represent the end of the old school, but they do show signs of an evolution:

Today, the BBWAA took a pretty big step back towards credibility. It obviously isn't a wholesale change, and there are always going to be people resistant to any sort of change, but the shift is taking place. And it's a welcome occurrence.

And I do have a SoxandPhils point to these votes - besides a gratuitous mention that I correctly predicted Lincecum's win. This morning, Scott Lauber, using Greinke's awareness of modern statistics as a hook, noted that Cole Hamels wasn't as bad as he was perceived:
Hamels posted a 4.32 ERA in 32 regular-season starts, but according to The Hardball Times, his (Fielding Independent Pitching) was only 3.71, nearly identical to his 3.70 FIP in 2008. Obviously, Hamels was far better in 2008, posting a 3.09 ERA in 33 starts, allowing fewer hits (193 in 2008, 206 in 2009) and logging more innings (227.1 in 2008, 193.2 in 2009). But maybe, as Manuel and Dubee often have said, Hamels' stuff was nearly as good as it was in 2008. There were other factors that caused his demise.

Remembering all the grief Hamels took in recent months, you'd think this observation would be earth-shattering, but it has been pointed out by sabermetricians since the summer. Here's what David Golebiewski posted on Fangraphs back in July:

The 25 year-old changeup artist might have troubling surface numbers, but he’s arguably pitching better than he did during that magical 2008 season.

When I mentioned this to Christine this morning, she questioned why I kept saying he had a poor season. I admit, I fall into the trap of not looking at, or even understanding, the more sophisticated statistics.

I don't understand statistics, but I have a healthy respect for those who do. I appreciate what they're saying and understand that things that I think are true may not be so. Hopefully, sports writers, who should view considering new metrics as part of their job, are starting to have a similar attitude.

Red Sox: Despite the blaring headlines, I don't think it means anything that Jason Bay rejected the initial Red Sox offer, reportedly $60 million over four years, and will be able to take offers from other teams in a few hours. Bay's agent and GM Theo Epstein remain civil:

"Nothing will happen by day's end, but we'll keep talking," Bay's agent Joe Urbon said.

"It's not a surprise that a player that's gone this far wants to see what's out there," Red Sox GM Theo Epstein said by phone in Bay's regard, though Epstein declined comment on the team's talks with Bay.

David Ortiz, meanwhile, wants Bay back along with another player with power. Perhaps because he hasn't hit more than 30 homers in a season since 2007?

"I said that like a year ago and everybody was looking at me like I was a (expletive) clown. You know? I said we needed another 30-home run hitter. Everybody was talking trash. There you go. Now what?" he said.

He spoke today to promote his charity golf outing that will feature several Sox: Jacoby Ellsbury, Mike Lowell, Clay Buchholz, Daniel Bard, Jason Varitek, Tim Wakefield and Terry Francona.

And Phils: Pedro Martinez, Jimmy Rollins and Ryan Howard.

Mar 6, 2008

Now one of them can shut up

As I recommended, Jonathan Papelbon signed a contract in between the $550,000 Bobby Jenks signed for, but not quite the $900,000 Ryan Howard got a year ago. There seems to be no squawking from Paps tonight - hopefully a sign that he's clamming up to focus on getting ready for the repeat.

It's kind of interesting the hierarchy the Sox placed on their pre-arbitration players (especially since Delcarmen's been around longer than any of them):

Papelbon - $775,000 plus $25,000 All-Star bonus
ROY Dustin Pedroia - $457,000
Jon Lester - $421,500
Manny Delcarmen - $421,000
Jacoby Ellsbury $406,000
Clay Buchholz - $396,000

Scary lede:

Look at Chuck LaMar, and what do you see?

The man who traded Bobby Abreu for Kevin Stocker? The man who gave Greg Vaughn $34 million? The man who captained a ship in Tampa Bay that took on water as quickly as he could bail it out?

Also: The Inquirer has a good piece dispelling the notion that strikeouts kill offense. It's nice when a sportswriter doesn't blindly adhere to old school principles and keeps an open mind to sabermetrics. I have a healthy respect for statheads; I just wish I understood them better.

Spring training update: Adam Eaton still stinks. Get healthy soon Kris Benson!